we talked about our ancient history/Tsarion?

Excellent Wood DreamWalker, Thank you for sharing. I am still soaking it all in.

Dan1, same with the petroglyphs, I have solid ideas about them and their similarities, but not quite 100% certain enough yet to come to a definite conclusion.

I did run across some definitions I'd like to share in regard to the root word Nag. It's amazing how some of these root words are shared by so many cultures often continents away. Prairy
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Naga (Sanskrit) Serpent; the symbol of immortality and wisdom, of renewed births, of secret knowledge and, when the tail is held in the mouth, of eternity. The nagas or serpents of wisdom are, therefore, full initiates: "the first Nagas -- beings wiser than Serpents -- are the 'Sons of Will and Yoga,' born before the complete separation of the sexes, 'matured in the man-bearing eggs produced by the power (Kriyasakti) of the holy sages' of the early Third Race" (SD 2:181). These first nagas were the original human adepts, who were later symbolized by the terms serpents and dragons. "These 'originals' -- called to this day in China 'the Dragons of Wisdom' -- were the first disciples of the Dhyanis, who were their instructors; in short, the primitive adepts of the Third Race, and later, of the Fourth and Fifth Races. The name became universal, and no sane man before the Christian era would ever have confounded the man and the symbol" (SD 2:210).

The early Mexican word nagual, now meaning sorcerer and medicine man, is akin in its meaning, for "Some of the descendants of the primitive Nagas, the Serpents of Wisdom, peopled America, when its continent arose during the palmy days of the great Atlantis, (America being the Patala or Antipodes of Jambu-Dwipa, not of Bharata-Varsha)" (SD 2:182). The Hebrew equivalent is nahash also meaning magic, enchantment, thus showing the same connection of ideas.

Naga may be equated with Ananta-sesha, the seven-headed endless serpent of Vishnu, "the great dragon eternity biting with its active head its passive tail, from the emanations of which spring worlds, beings and things. . . . The Nag awakes. He heaves a heavy breath and the latter is sent like an electric shock all along the wire encircling Space" (ML 73).

Naga-dvipa (Sanskrit) The island of the dragons; one of the seven divisions of Bharata-varsha or India, according to the Puranas. The nagas were an historical people, but now unknown. "When the Brahmans invaded India they 'found a race of wise men, half-gods, half-demons,' says the legend, men who were the teachers of other races and became likewise the instructors of the Hindus and the Brahmans themselves. Nagpur is justly believed to be the surviving relic of Nagadwipa. Now Nagpur is virtually in Rajputana, near Oodeypore, Ajmere, etc. And is it not well known that there was a time when Brahmans went to learn Secret Wisdom from the Rajputs? Moreover a tradition states that Apollonius of Tyana was instructed in magic by the Nagas of Kashmere" (TG 222-3).

Nagal (Quiche) Usually rendered Nagual by the early Spaniards; title of the chief priest of the Quiches.

Nagarajas (Sanskrit) Serpent or dragon kings; the guardian spirits of lakes and rivers, shown in Buddhist chronicles as having been converted to Buddhism, becoming arhats from yogis. Outside of meaning initiates or adepts, nagas were likewise an actual people who inhabited Naga-dvipa, one of the seven divisions of Bharata-varsha or India, according to the Puranas.

Naglfar (Icelandic) [from nagl nail + far to travel] In Norse tradition, a mythical ship built of the nails of the dead, which casts off when a world's life cycle comes to an end.

http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/etgloss/na-ne.htm

Thank you for these pictures Dream Walker Awake. Were these the information you emailed me about?

Respectfully, DAN 1

I hope to share in my childish way some of the story as I can see it from here, Blood of MyBlood, soon the world will know what all this New Age stuff is all about, and they will be moved....GhostChild.

Hi everybody. While I await council permission regarding the use of Cro-Magnon/Guanche's words, I would like to begin to respond and share what I have discovered regarding the issues presented here by Prairyearth and then Dream Walker Awake. I tend to embrace, as belief, what I share, but in no way suggest that what I bring to this fire is the only or whole Truth. I will begin.

Prairyearth shared:

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"The genetic probes began innocently enough with geneticists wanting to see what secrets human genes might reveal about our complex, mysterious and often disputed history. Anthropologists and historians had long thought that the America's had been populated by Asians crossing a land bridge that connected Asia and North America during the last Ice Age. This was referred to as the 'Bering Strait Crossing' theory and was believed to have occurred about 12,000 years ago.

Genetic analysis on Native American DNA samples began in the 1980s. However, the research effort greatly accelerated in the 1990s due to rapid technological progress in the field. In fact, the early results confirmed the generally accepted theory showing a clear link between Native Americans and DNA samples collected from native peoples in Siberian-Asia. Nevertheless, as the studies both deepened and broadened to include Asians across the continent, the increasing data revealed that the migration pattern had been more complex than anthropologist's had envisioned.

The early results showed that Native American tribes were comprised of four distinct mtDNA haplogroups, A, B, C, and D. The haplogroup designations represent four different (maternal) lineages. These four lineages are found throughout North, Central and South America. However, only three of them A, C, and D were discovered in the Siberian-Asian populations. The B haplogroup was traced to aboriginal population groups in Southeast Asia, China, Japan, Melanesia, and Polynesia."

I have found in the Urantia Book much that agrees with what Prairyearth has brought to this fire. It might be rewarding to see what it has to say about Red Family.

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"1. The red man. These peoples were remarkable specimens of the human race, in many ways superior to Andon and Fonta. They were a most intelligent group and were the first of the Sangik children to develop a tribal civilization and government. They were always monogamous; even their mixed descendants seldom practiced plural mating.
In later times they had serious and prolonged trouble with their yellow brethren in Asia. They were aided by their early invention of the bow and arrow, but they had unfortunately inherited much of the tendency of their ancestors to fight among themselves, and this so weakened them that the yellow tribes were able to drive them off the Asiatic continent.
About eighty-five thousand years ago the comparatively pure remnants of the red race went en masse across to North America, and shortly thereafter the Bering land isthmus sank, thus isolating them. No red man ever returned to Asia. But throughout Siberia, China, central Asia, India, and Europe they left behind much of their stock blended with the other colored races.
When the red man crossed over into America, he brought along much of the teachings and traditions of his early origin. His immediate ancestors had been in touch with the later activities of the world headquarters of the Planetary Prince. But in a short time after reaching the Americas, the red men began to lose sight of these teachings, and there occurred a great decline in intellectual and spiritual culture. Very soon these people again fell to fighting so fiercely among themselves that it appeared that these tribal wars would result in the speedy extinction of this remnant of the comparatively pure red race.
Because of this great retrogression the red men seemed doomed when, about sixty-five thousand years ago, Onamonalonton appeared as their leader and spiritual deliverer. He brought temporary peace among the American red men and revived their worship of the "Great Spirit." Onamonalonton lived to be ninety-six years of age and maintained his headquarters among the great redwood trees of California. Many of his later descendants have come down to modern times among the Blackfoot Indians.
As time passed, the teachings of Onamonalonton became hazy traditions. Internecine wars were resumed, and never after the days of this great teacher did another leader succeed in bringing universal peace among them. Increasingly the more intelligent strains perished in these tribal struggles; otherwise a great civilization would have been built upon the North American continent by these able and intelligent red men.
After crossing over to America from China, the northern red man never again came in contact with other world influences (except the Eskimo) until he was later discovered by the white man. It was most unfortunate that the red man almost completely missed his opportunity of being upstepped by the admixture of the later Adamic stock. As it was, the red man could not rule the white man, and he would not willingly serve him. In such a circumstance, if the two races do not blend, one or the other is doomed.

The red men early began to migrate to the northeast, on the heels of the retreating ice, passing around the highlands of India and occupying all of northeastern Asia. They were closely followed by the yellow tribes, who subsequently drove them out of Asia into North America.
When the relatively pure-line remnants of the red race forsook Asia, there were eleven tribes, and they numbered a little over seven thousand men, women, and children. These tribes were accompanied by three small groups of mixed ancestry, the largest of these being a combination of the orange and blue races. These three groups never fully fraternized with the red man and early journeyed southward to Mexico and Central America, where they were later joined by a small group of mixed yellows and reds. These peoples all intermarried and founded a new and amalgamated race, one which was much less warlike than the pure-line red men. Within five thousand years this amalgamated race broke up into three groups, establishing the civilizations respectively of Mexico, Central America, and South America. The South American offshoot did receive a faint touch of the blood of Adam.
To a certain extent the early red and yellow men mingled in Asia, and the offspring of this union journeyed on to the east and along the southern seacoast and, eventually, were driven by the rapidly increasing yellow race onto the peninsulas and near-by islands of the sea. They are the present-day brown men."

Where I found this information is at:

http://www.urantia.org/papers/paper64.html

Respectfully submitted, DAN 1

Ok. I have fianlly received permission from "committee" to seek permission to adopt some words from the Cro-Magnon Guanche Language. Time to visit the men who might accept the responsibilty to represent the Guanche People, or consult with them, and "gift" these words to us.

Just thought I would post this update here.

Respectfully, DAN 1

Well, it looks like the Guanche People have been entirely assimilated or exterminated.

I wrote a couple of letters, (snail mail), to a couple of the Canary Islands and received no reply. I did this in November of 2006.

I then began to plan a trip to the Canary Islands to see if I could find any surviving Guanche People of that name...who haven't been entirely absorbed by Spanish Culture. Upon presenting this idea to the First Trinar, it became apparent that other Narbarians felt that such an expenditure for some ancient words was not a good idea and that such expenses would better serve other aspects of our new culture and its relationship to certain elements of Humanity on Mother Earth.

Consequently, I decided to not go or send GWA 1, (she lives closer to the Canary Islands...Albion U.K.). She does not wish to undertake this journey. I respect her feelings and wishes in this.

I began to research some more and came to understand that the Guanche were extinct as a culture and had no organization, secret or otherwise with which to consider my request for the adoption and use of their words. Of course, I realize that if there was still a secret body that represented Guanche Culture, it may well be that I would not find mention of it on the web.

So, in keeping with our new custom of not taking anything from still living and functioning Original People Cultures, without that culture's permission, I have decided to adopt the Guanche words that are available.

These Cro-Magnon words are sacred to us of the New White Fire of the North. We have a few Andonite words, (Andonites were the first Humans of which the Neanderthals were a regressive branch of...see Urantia Book.) As an individual I feel very desirous of these Cro-Magnon words to enrichen our language and link our way to the very remote past. To the Tribal Peoples of Pre-Historic Times who have been conquered and assimilated and to which we Narbarians feel Spiritual and psychological kinship. Without this we have no one to claim as our ancestors, no heritage that is worthy. Before the Celt and Teuton Andite Conquests were the many groups of Andonite and Blue Man Humans who had homes and families across the steppes, Siberia and Europe. Before the first rulers from other worlds arrived on our Home World, the Andonites lived co-operative and relatively free lives as Hunters and Gatherers. For 500,000 years before the "Planetary Prince" came, who betrayed us all, the Andonites endured the ice ages in strength and freedom. At the same time of the arrival of Adam and Eve, the Sangik Races arrived as mutation and from these the Red Man, Blue Man, Yellow Man, Orange Man, Green Man and Indigo Man were began from one womb in the Highlands of Elam...before that place was called Elam.

I just wrote the above to help my felow Ghostchildren see the beliefs of truths that inspire me to want these sacred Blue Man words. Words that will live on in the New White Fire of the North...and be respected and revered.

Thats all I have for now Brothers and Sisters. See you soon.

Respectfully Submitted, DAN 1 (NaBarStarSeer)