born: melissa ann turner 12-30-1965. m. july 12, 1985. mother: b. carolyn ann wombles dec. 16, 1950. grandmother:nellie couch b.1907 cdib# on final dawes roll, her parents were matilda spurlock cdib on final dawes roll also her father: jesse couch has a cdib listed on final dawes roll. matildas mother was sarah ann davidson grand- daughter of chief red bird of the cherokee he was murdered dec.1796 or jan 1797, as confirmed by archived letters of the gov. of tennessee 1797. chief red bird is son of chief silver eagle. this also on matida and jesse are both decendants of powhatton, and his daughter pocahontas: maoteka. my mothers father: roy wombles his mother loucinda couch is a sister to abraham couch the father of jesse couch[father of nellie] this makes my grandparents 3rd cousins.

----- Original Message -----
From: marley wombles <nativesfromcountry@hotmail.com>
Date: Friday, June 27, 2008 9:44 am
Subject: FW: Jerry Seaver & Melissa Seaver & Grandson
To: indianmoon@shaw.ca
Cc: orakwa@paulcomm.ca

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> From: angusfarms@hotmail.comTo: vwoods@mikespy.comCC:
> nativesfromcountry@hotmail.comSubject: Jerry Seaver & Melissa
> Seaver & GrandsonDate: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:37:20 +0000
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> Melissa Seaver PO Box 30 Scottsburg,In. 47170(812)752-6611
> secondary phone and fax(812)820-8081 and (8082)
> cell(s)email<nativesfromcountry@hotmail.comemail<angusfarms@hotmail.com

Our farm is being stolen(has been)by fraud.1985: the fraud statred, we wern't aware but a document from the running record just finally made sense to us for the first time... a running record was started by FmHA and PCA, we didn't own the land then, Jerry's mother Mayme Seaver was(unremarried widow of Oren) 1986-2008:

Jerry at his sisters request bought the farm through FmHa where she was emlpoyed.At the begining we had problems with them. with collusion of several usda offices, FmHA(now FSA), ASCS,RD,RHS,DOJ,OCR,OIG,but not limited toas well as several state and county offices including the Scott County Treasurer(currently underspecial investigation for $750,000.00 missing from county treasury,now the Austin Rural EconomicDevelpoment is also under investigation for money missing from the funds(federal funds) of thesame dates and the same amounts.

The relevance is that it is concurrent with the dates and the forged tax bills submitted throughthe foreclosure and bankruptcy cases. the bank allowed our monies to be repeatedly ACH'ed out of our account(FTC complaint filed)as well as with the Scott County Sheriff's Office. After many requests for Civil Rights,to the AG,IG,SECofAg,State AG,even with refinacing ina timely manner and also wasn't accepted.

On FEb 15,2007 with an appeal pending(automatic stay) approxiamtely 2o+/- law enforcementagents(including Sheriff Lizenby and some of his Deputies) came into my home with nowarrants nor Court order's...My three year old grandson was froced by a(Marshal?) to watchas I was being searched(I was weraing knee leagth blue jeans)they ripped my clothes,spit in my face,screamed and yelled at me that I wasn't in control anymore(they admitted)using GPS to tell that I was home alone.

I was dragged outside into a car with no heat(14degrees)while the woman agent kept my coat on her own arms. When we got 3 year old Timothy "Ty" back we both were so cold not thinking immediatelyabout harm to him we tried to get him warm as they shut off the electric,killingour livestock, telling people who called our phone that this line was being used for lawenforcment...demanding their names and their business, Our daugther who had just had a baby on the 13th was calling for a ride home from the hospitalthey screamed and yelled at her all the while all of this was going on I was handcuffed and in this carnot arressted.

Ty was diagnosed by his pediatrician as having stress regrssion disorder(I have a copy the schoolhas in thier report)from Police brutality(he was brusied from top of back to bottom)the school done pshycological evaluation he was put into Special Service Unit Pre-Schooland now due to the second evaluation he is being labled to go into kindergarten with a labelof "LD" meaning he will caring Learning disablity the rest of his life. My husband Jerry is Disabled and has been since 1990 when a drug store gave him the wrong meds.

The farm in question has been in Jerry's family since 1914. Jerry also tried to care for the Native Mounds and the leg of the undrground railroad all his life. Jerry is in a weakend condition and has had several heart attacks, one being when we wereat a bankruptcy hearing after just days of being on Nitro for an attack.(4 men came up tohim and myself before the hearing making a semicircle around us and proceeding to makeharrassing statements...

Jerry went to the restroom when he came back he was alreadywell into another attack,we were allowed to leave the court but no one helped to call 911nor did anyone help me get him to the car. today a letter came from the courts that sayswe could loose the proceeds from the sell of ourfarm if we don't write the court by June 16 2008. Thank you for your time Date: 5/29/2008 Melissa Seaver
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Now Imagine She Is Also A Decendent Of One Of The Signer's Of The Declaration Of Independance....

With The Foundation Eroded: The HOUSE Must Fall....Remove Perpetual Succession Rights To Heir's And Successor's Of Royal Charters: Is Too Remove The Foundation Of The HOUSE That IS AMERICA....A CORPORATION: NOW WITHOUT A BEGINING?

The Small Business Adventure SomeHow Became A COUNRTY?

AMERICA NEEDS TO LOOK INTO MY MIRROR:
AND SEE THE JURISDICTIONAL FRAUD IN PLAIN SITE TO ANY WHO LOOK TO LEARN: THE Original People Hold The Supreme Jurisdiction: And So It Should That AMERICA: GIVE BACK THAT WHICH THEY CAN NOT LAWFULLY HOLD.

Truly I Love You All Regardless Your Colour Religion Or Ideology Or Depth Of BRAINWASHING:

But If You Wish To Save This World: It Starts By Correcting The Jurisdiction With The Beneficairy's/Benefactor's/Creditor's Who Are The Original People Of This Allodial Land Of Turtle Island:

And Then All Around The World All The Original People To Their Lands NOT EUROPE: Back To The Original Competent Boundaries:
Back To The Competent Common Law:
And Those Under ADIRMALTY COMMERCE MARTIAL LAW FLAGS:
Surrender The Alien Law Of EUROPE:

And Obey The Common Law Of Common Original People:
And Cast Off Your SLAVESHACKLES:
And Step Off The CORPORATESHIPS BEFORE THEY HIT THE ROCKS:
I Believe GEORGE BUSH JR HAS HIS EYES ON IRAN....

Melissa Seaver Is A Pertual Successor And Inherent Chief Lines: She is Royal Metis: And Worthy Of Safety And Protection: To Standing Order For Non-Molestation: Investment: And The Return Of Her Property And The Burial Mounds Protected On Her Land That Has Been Stolen From Her By Unlawful Contract By Banking Fraud. I Recognise Melissa Seaver And Welcome Her Home To Turtle Island....

Here Is Some Medicine:

AMERICAN MORTGAGE FORCLOSURE SCHEME: RESOLUTION AGREEMENT
BY LOGIC AND REASON JUDGEMENT:
CREDITOR/HOME OWNER VS. DEBTOR BANK.

THE CREDITOR/HOME OWNER NAME: _____________________________________
THE DEBTOR/BANK NAME: _______________________________________________


IT IS LOGICAL AND REASONABLE:
THAT THE CREDITOR IS ONE.
THAT THE DEBTOR IS ZERO.

THUSLY: IT IS LOGICAL AND REASONABLE:
THAT ONE IS BETTER THEN ZERO.


IT IS LOGICAL AND REASONABLE:
THAT THE CREDITOR/HOME OWNER HAS THE CLAIM VALUE.
THAT THE DEBTOR/BANK HAS NO CLAIM VALUE.

THUSLY: IT IS LOGICAL AND REASONABLE:
CREDITOR/HOME OWNER IS BENEFACTOR/BENEFICAIRY OF THE CLAIM VALUE.

PROOF:

IT IS LOGICAL AND REASONABLE:
THAT VALUE EARNED IS VALUE PAID BY THE CREDITOR/HOME OWNER.
THAT THE VALUE NOT EARNED NOT PAYABLE TO THE DEBTOR/BANK.

THUSLY: IT IS LOGICAL AND REASONABLE:
THAT IS SOMETHING IS: THAT NOTHING IS NOT.


IT IS LOGICAL AND REASONABLE:
THAT THE CREDITOR/HOME OWNER PAYS THE VALUE FORWARD: AS COLATORAL FOR HOUSE MORGAGE.
THAT THE DEBTOR/BANK CAN NOT FORWARD VALUE NOT THERE: BY NO VENTURE CAPITAL MATCHED.

THUSLY: COLATORAL UNMATCHED BY DEBTOR BANK VENTURE CAPITAL:
IS NO CLAIM FOR VALUE BY NO VENTURE.

IT IS LOGICAL AND REASONABLE:
THAT THE CREDITOR/HOME OWNER RISKS COLATORAL FOR MORTGAGE: BY PERCENTAGE VALUE.
THAT THE DEBTOR BANK RISKS NO CAPITAL BY NO PERCENTAGE VALUE: NOT INVESTED.

THUSLY: THE PERCENTAGE PAID AS COLATORAL RISK: IS THE VALUE OF THE CREDITOR/HOME OWNER.


IT IS LOGICAL AND REASONABLE:
THAT THE CREDITOR FOR THE MORGAGE PAYS FORWARD THE MONTHLY DUE.
THAT THE DEBTOR BANK MAKES NO DUE MONTHLY.

THUSLY: THAT WHICH IS MONTHY DUE IS THE VALUE FORWARD.

IT IS LOGICAL AND REASONABLE:
THAT THE VALUE OF THE MORGAGE: IS BY THE RISK OF THE CREDITOR.
THAT NO VALUE OF THE MORTGAGE: IS AT NO RISK: BY NO VENTURE CAPITAL BY THE DEBTOR/BANK.

THUSLY: THE RISK IS THE VALUE: BY THE VALUE OF RISK.

IT IS LOGICAL AND REASONABLE:


BOTTOM LINE:


IT IS LOGICAL AND REASONABLE:
THAT NOTHING VENTURED IS NOTHING GAINED = NOTHING CLAIMABLE BY DEBTOR BANK.
SOMETHING VENTURED IS SOMETHING GAINED = SOMETHING CLAIMABLE BY CREDITOR/HOME OWNER = NO FORECLOSURE.

THUSLY: NO FORECLOSURE WHEN NOTHING IS VENTURED = FRAUD: BY THE DEBTOR BANK:

THERE ARE NO STATUTES OF LIMITATIONS FOR FRAUD:
LOGIC AND REASON IS THE FINAL MAXIM OF LAW:
FOR WITHOUT LOGIC AND REASON AS THE FOUNDATION TO THE CORPORATE POLICY:
THE HOUSE CAN NOT STAND: WHEN THE FOUNDATION IS PULLED OUT.

SILENCE IS CONSENT: TO THE HOUSE RETURNED TO THE CREDITOR.
SILENCE IS CONSENT: WHEN FRAUD REVEALS LIABILITY OF THE DEBTOR/BANK:
SILENCE IS CONSENT: TO THE MORTGAGE RESTRUCTURED TO BENFIT THE CREDITOR/HOME OWNER.

What You Don't Know:

I Have Invited Melissa To The Site And Join Us: But She Can Not Get The Site Up! Even At A Friends Computor She Is Blocked. I Just Checked: The Message I Left Here About Her Emails Being Censored...Is Now Gone?

Another Interesting Factum: Prairy, Melissa And Myself All Did A Search For ghostchild.org and we each got different results? Prairy Received "189": Melissa Received "0" and I Had Received "10".....The GhostChild.

Melissa Or As I Call Her: WomanOfTheCorn: Has Not Been Able To Get The Site Up As She Is Being Activily Blocked In Most Of Her Rights And Freedoms. She Got This One Through, So When She Can See This Site She Can Make Corrections To Any Errors That May Have Ocured On The Way To My Email....Hint Hint....Wink Wink....Nudge Nudge....The GhostChild.

"Moon, Goerge Mason IV refused to sign the united states constitution,until
the "Bill of Rights" was added...he is known as the father of that document.

My father Billie D. Turner, son of Silvia G"Mason" Turner follows back
to goerge Mason IV in our direct ancestor chart, his grandson is my grandmothers, grandfather george washington mason goerge IV is my 6th
great-grandfather.

Silvia' other side Becks are on the final dawes rolls of the cherokee
both William H. Beck, his brother otto. this is Silvias grandfather W.H Beck.
And Genettia "nettie" martha (young) Beck is also on the final dawes rolls
cherokee on both thier cdib's are listed.

the land in New Mexico that is still in my grandmothers, fathers name
Octhelda Washington "O.W."Mason is indian land 1800 acres still sits
in his name.??????supposed to anyway.

the land(s) in Kentucky ..."Turkey Brach" my mother never signed anything
that would give away her hiers portion, meaning myself and my sibs should
be entitled to an hiers portion of an heirs share of this whole large tract
of land... someone has stolen the logs, my great aunt Hazel Rice and her
kids got all of the kids except my mother to sign over their rights when
they found someone had stolen the trees...my mother died Jan 31,2003
and she had never signed her rights away to this land.

Nor did she sign away her heir rights to "The Redbird Purchase Unit" in
the Danial Boone National Forrest, both of these peices of land has
large amounts of usda funds has been used on these properties in recent
years thanks to JT finding the info.

My grandmother Nellie"Couch" Wombles is the ancestor with ties to both
of these peices of land. And heir under "Chief Red Bird" but the real one
was dead prior to Feb 10,1797." Cherokee "

And she also is a direct decendant of pocahontas/ and her father cheif
Powhatton "Algonquin/powhatton"

These are on my mother's mothers side.

My mothers father Roy Wombles had as dark a skin as there is in the naties
his claim is also as a third cousin to his wife... you guessed it powhatton
and cherokee,chief lines. He also has claim to creek through his great grandmother Rebecca Wages.

The links in oklahoma indian territory for my grandparents is...the
Davidson name many of the extended relations are listed as being born
at Red Boiling Springs, Redstar,etc.

The daughter of chief redbird was given to Perry Albert Davidson as a gift,
when Davidson came upon the Chief camped at the river, he gave cheif redbird a pound of coffee and tobacco(thats when she was given)
she was forced to go on the trail of tears and davison went with her but
thier two eldest daughters were married to whitemen in Kentucky and
he left and went back while she and all thier other children went on she
is burried in an indian cememtay in "Bald Knobs" not sure if it is in
Arkansas, or Oklahoma I just keep getting dead ends and info that I already
have is changed the next time that I look it up.

My side is hurting now so I'll leave you at this time when I can find it
i have some of this already on jpg that someone did for me.
Woman Of The Corn/Melissa[Turner][Seaver]"

See Her In Beauty: These Are Her Own Words For The Most Part.

I Will be Posting As Soon As We Can Figure Away To Get It Here By The Fire: But Melissa's Land Is Listed In Europe! I Go To The Links Provided By A Couple Different Sources And The Pages Are Blank Or Are In ERROR....?

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush signed a law on Thursday overhauling the rules for eavesdropping on terrorism suspects but immediately met a civil liberties challenge calling it a threat to Americans' privacy.

"This law will protect the liberties of our citizens while maintaining the vital flow of intelligence," Bush said at a White House ceremony to mark a rare legislative victory for the president during his last year in office.

The American Civil Liberties Union filed suit in Manhattan federal court as Bush signed the measure and called for the law to be voided as a violation of constitutional speech and privacy protections.

"Spying on Americans without warrants or judicial approval is an abuse of government power, and that's exactly what this law allows," ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero said in announcing the suit.

The action was filed on behalf of human-rights groups, journalists, labor organizations and others who say they fear the law will allow the U.S. government to monitor their activities, including compiling of critical reports on the United States.

Bush quickly signed the bill a day after Congress gave it final approval, with Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama dropping earlier opposition to vote for passage. Obama's Republican rival, Sen. John McCain, has supported the bill but was absent for Wednesday's vote.

The bill authorizes U.S. intelligence agencies to eavesdrop without court approval on foreign targets believed to be outside the United States.

The administration says the measure will allow it to swiftly track terrorists. But the suit charges the law permits warrantless surveillance of phone calls and e-mails of U.S. citizens who may have legal and legitimate reasons for contacting people targeted by government spying.

The bill seeks to minimize such eavesdropping on Americans, but the suit says the safeguards are inadequate.

The law lets government "conduct intrusive surveillance without ever telling a court who it intends to surveil, what phone lines and e-mail addresses it intends to monitor, where its surveillance targets are located, or why it's conducting the surveillance," said ACLU national security director Jameel Jaffer, the lead attorney in the suit.

The most contentious issue in negotiations over the bill was a provision that grants liability protection to telecommunication companies that took part in a warrantless domestic spying program Bush began after the September 11 attacks.

The law shields those firms from billions of dollars in potential damages from privacy lawsuits.

McCain criticized Obama's vote in favor of the law as an inconsistency, and ACLU Legislative Director Caroline Fredrickson called it "very disappointing."

The Democrat's campaign had earlier said he would support efforts to block legislation with a telecommunications immunity provision, but Obama voted for the overall bill Bush signed after casting a losing vote to strip the immunity provision.

"Given the choice between voting for an improved yet imperfect bill, and losing important surveillance tools, I've chosen to support the current compromise," Obama said on his campaign Web site.

(Additional reporting by Edith Honan in New York; Editing by David Alexander and David Wiessler)

Interesting CON-Trast Wouldn't You Say?

The Laws Of ENGLAND And BRITAIN Have No Force Or Effect To The Original People Of Turtle Island:

George Bush Jr: You Have Made The Moves Of High Treason...I Know Who YOUR "PRINCIPLE" Is....Do You? You Are Almost Out Of Office: Do You Correct The Error's Or Stand For High Treason? The GhostChild.

From -- http://supreme.justia.com/us/455/130/

U.S. Supreme Court

Merrion v. Jicarilla Apache Tribe, 455 U.S. 130 (1982)
Merrion v. Jicarilla Apache Tribe
No. 80-11
Argued March 30, 1981
Reargued November 4, 1981
Decided January 25, 1982*
455 U.S. 130

". . .The Tribe's role as commercial partner with petitioners should not be confused with its role as sovereign. It is one thing to find that the Tribe has agreed to sell the right to use the land and take valuable minerals from it, and quite another to find that the Tribe has abandoned its sovereign powers simply because it has not expressly reserved them through a contract. To presume that a sovereign forever waives the right to exercise one of its powers unless it expressly reserves the right to exercise that power in a commercial agreement turns the concept of sovereignty on its head."

Just hoping little W doesn't get like a rabid dog before he leaves office. That man is not well.

I heard of 700 planned arrest to happen on the Standing Rock Res....the BIA is sending in extra police force, they say due to some alcohol, drug use, and gang activity. Sending 700 men, woman and youth to prison rather than correcting the problems of assimilated life that had imprisoned cultural spiritual practices, seems rather severe.

Prairy

Dear Esquire: In Regards To The GrandChild Of Melissa Seaver:

The GrandChild Has No Birth Certificate: Thus No ENFRANCHISEMENT SCHEME: Thus No LEGAL CLAIM BY CORPORATE ENTITIES: Also: Re-Naming The Child Is INCORPORATION SCHEME: You Have No Lawful Claim Over Melissa Seaver's Sovereign GrandChild: Further: No Investment By The Father Of The Child: No Support: No Clothing Or Other Child Care Costs: Or Maintenaince Of The Mother Of The Child: Means Nothing Ventured Nothing Gained By The Father. Correct The Errors: You Have Been Warned Publicly. The GhostChild.

Native Americans rally to protect
Indian burial grounds near Austin
Property dispute complicates efforts by
archaeologists to investigate site
By Konnie McCollum
Contributing Writer


Photo by Konnie McCollum

Native Americans take part in a drum
ceremony Jan. 27 at the site of an alleged
Indian burial mound near Austin, Ind.
AUSTIN, Ind. (February 2007) – A 145-acre farm located just west of Madison, Ind., has recently garnered attention as a possible Indian burial site that is being threatened by residential development. The farm, located at 2077 Terry Rd. near Hwy. 256 east of Austin, has been owned by Jerry Seaver’s family since Aug. 3, 1914. But it is now is in the center of a property rights battle that has landed in the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago as part of a foreclosure case.
Despite the ongoing legal battle over who actually owns the property, Melissa Seaver, Jerry’s wife, has worked to get part of the farm classified as an official archaeological site until more research can be done to determine if it is indeed an Indian burial ground. According Melissa Seaver, the site now has been registered with the Indiana Department of Natural Resources and has an archaeological site number. If so designated, this would protect it from being razed or desecrated by any construction or farming until further archaeological work is conducted. DNR officials in Indianapolis would not comment on the case or confirm that the site had been so classified because of the ongoing property ownership dispute.


Photo by Konnie McCollum

Native Americans Kevin and
Jeannine Johanson present Jerry and
Melissa Seavers (center) with an Indian
blanket to thank them for their
efforts to protect the site.
A press conference to address the issue and an Indian pipe ceremony were held Jan. 27 at the site. Native Americans from a variety of tribes, including the Lakota Sioux, the Oglala Sioux, Cherokee, Miami and Pottawattamie gathered to participate in the spiritual ceremony to honor ancestors that may be buried on the grounds.
Seaver said throughout the years, the family would find bits and pieces of pottery or arrowheads around the large mounds of earth that are on the property. No one really paid much attention to it. She said when her husband was young, he would dig around what he referred to as “the bulldozed piles” and find Indian artifacts, which even included a tomahawk, but he didn’t realize the significance of those finds.
She realized about three years ago what those mounds could possibly contain and started at that point trying to get help from various agencies and authorities to look into the matter. “It has been a long process to try to get on a protection list to save the site,” she said.
Indians from all over the state gathered at the site in May 2006 to conduct a ceremony. They prayed for spiritual help, held a feast and did a ceremonial drum beat for hours, said Seaver.
Finally, last October, Louisville-based archaeologist Anne Bader visited the site and conducted a preliminary dig. According to Seaver, Bader was convinced by the evidence collected during the dig that the site may indeed contain Indian artifacts. She helped secure a DNR registered archaeology site number, according to Seaver.
Bader could not be reached for comment.


Photo by Konnie McCollum

Native American
medicine man Steve McCullough leads a
ceremony Jan. 27 at
the Seavers’ farm
near Austin, Ind.
Seaver said the officials who visited the farm think the site may have been an entire village that ran along Flat Creek in Jennings Township in Scott County. She said archaeologists speculate that the artifacts are from a Miami Tribe living in the area during the 1500s or 1600s. There is also evidence to suggest that some of the artifacts are from the Shawnee Tribe and the Pottawattamies as well. More research could determine exactly how old the artifacts are and to whom they belonged.
Seaver also said the actual size of the area, according to the archaeologists, is much larger than first thought. “We thought there were only three mounds, but the experts see much more,” she said. Apparently, nearly four acres of the farm is thought to contain the Indian artifacts.
In the meantime, Seaver said there has been continued looting and vandalism to the mounds. “We have tried to guard against looters, and we have tried not to disturb the mounds,” she said.
According to Indiana archaeology law, no person can disturb archaeology sites with artifacts dating before Dec. 11, 1816, or human remains dating on or before Dec. 31, 1939, without an approved permit from the Indiana DNR.
Steve McCullough, a Lakota Sioux medicine man who took part in the January ceremony, said he believes the site is sacred and they need to work hard to save it.
“We appreciate the Seavers doing what they can to save this site from destruction because it is an important part of our ancestry,” he said.



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